Burning out on FFXI at the moment, if you wondering about the somewhat melancholy posts.
I don't know what it is... part of me has finally snapped I guess. I don't hate the game. I am very disillusioned though...
Issue #1: Exclusion
I already went over this in my last post so no need, but the playerbase is extremely annoying. Forced grouping is a horrible, horrible idea... it's not that I'm antisocial. I enjoy playing with people, I honestly do... but it's at the stage where you have to ask permission from people to play and it's simply ridiculous.
Issue #2: Frustration
Here's a big one. HNMs are frankly absolutely terribly designed. Any HNM camper will tell you that the HNM lifestyle comes with great "high"s and great "low"s. The "high"s feel so cheap because of the horribly designed system, and the "low"s make me question why I even bother logging on honestly.
HNMs consume a ridiculous amount of time for no reason. Some people find them relaxing, I find them horribly tedious. I play this game to play it, not sit around for three hours a day. It's not always that bad but regardless. And what happens when you claim said HNM? Your chances of claim are fractional and on top of that, your chances of getting desired drops even more fractional (looking at you, Aspidchelone and/or King Behemoth). Nobody wants to waste all of those hours trying to claim a monster which only drops something valuable 25% of the time or far less. It's stupid!
Three hour king windows are stupidity themselves, but what about REALLY long ones, like Tiamat/Khimaira etc. Does anyone really enjoy them being this long? Would anyone care if they were shorter? The time requirements for HNM are truly sickening... not to mention realistically, most of the time, you are getting one or two drops a week. If that. When you abandon traditional events like dynamis/limbus/sky/sea etc which typically have 5x or above that output, it's just all incredibly demoralising.
No, this isn't about greed.
I genuinelly enjoy getting other people drops... but the time/reward ratio (something which is horribly done in most of FFXI) is absolutely dire here. Aspidchelone I keep bringing up because it is a joke of an HNM. Dfeet/Mfeet - does anyone really want to camp for these? W Body - enjoy your 40MP over Errant. Dalmy - the treasure of the pool and even so outshadowed by other pieces nowadays. You have a 25% chance of not hideously wasting your time.
Which brings me to my next point;
Issue #3: Randomness
The game is far too random! The difference between rich and poor can simply be luck and often is - drop rates across the board are incredibly low and SE seem determined to make you bleed to get most of the stuff you want in this game. Claiming an HNM is (supposed to be) random. Getting the drop you desire is then random. Salvage... epitome of random. Limbus, drops are random. Dynamis; random. One shell can go years without seeing a Duelist's Chapeau whereas another can get four in a run. It's dumb! Einherjar, random in terms of what mobs you get (not a bad thing in my opinion) but random in the annoying sense with regards to what drops you get.
SE seem determined that the drops you get are determined solely by how lucky you are at rolling the dice. Would it really hurt if drop rates were higher? I personally wouldn't care if more people had Adaman Hauberks, or Hecatomb Subligar, or other drops. If you invest time, you deserve reward - the reward should not come from luck itself.
Of course a lot of people will disagree on this point because some people enjoy rarity... which brings me on to my next point;
Issue #4 - Emptiness
Does this game really have much content?
Rhetorical question I know, but think about it. We have been and will be grinding Dynamis... forever. Likewise HNM, likewise Limbus and nearly all of the other events.
This is because drop rates are random and low in most cases and the output is incredibly small compared to the number of participants. The grind becomes the focus, items become the focus... these events are generally not fun due to the sheer endless repetition involved... a sheer endless repetition due to lack of content.
Think about this: imagine all drop rates were 100% (in the case of Dynamis, presume each participating member receives one piece of AF2 per run and in the case of Limbus, that each member selects one piece of the Homam/Nashira set per run). How long would these events last? Salvage in particular is a very small, shallow event with intensely low drop rates just to perpetuate the grind.
There really isn't much content, is there?
Now eliminate all content which involves forced grouping.
It's a bit empty in here, isn't it?
The grind is all that remains. Why do so many people quit after receiving items? It is because the grind removes all fun, and just burns you out severely over time. Once you receive the item, you realise it is a relief rather than a joy... I speak from personal experience here. Adaman Hauberk did not make me that excited. I tried to be. I really did... it just felt so hollow compared to my old triumphs like Homam Cosciales. My dominant emotion was relief, not joy. That's not to say I didn't appreciate getting it and love it -- because I do. It just doesn't feel all that amazing and that's probably because I'm burned out... I will appreciate it evermore.
Issue #5 - Hatred
People hate me, I am fairly certain. I cannot blame them for I have become bitter and cynical since the grind has completely burned me out. There is a faction in my very linkshell who hate me and I generally don't enjoy logging in to that animosity.
I am a very opinionated individual. I speak my intents and my meanings clearly... and earn enemies for it. I never wanted this hatred.
The most painful part of it all is with a good friend with whom a rift has been developing and is very wide... I feel used. A placeholder until other friends arrive. I am only talked to when I am the only one or when she needs something, and I wish it wasn't that way. Very occasionally attempts will be made to reconcile but I feel like I should distance myself to prevent feeling like a placeholder once again.
Well, if you survived that wall of text of a post you deserve congratulations. I am aware it is incredibly boring and I apologise. I just need somewhere to pool my thoughts and my blog seems somewhat appropriate.
I currently have no plans to quit, but I may severely cut back my playtime. I do enjoy this game when not burned out, but I really am not particularly at the moment.
19 comments:
1 question, have you done wotg missions and all nations storyline quests?
I've done most of them, as many as I can solo/duo and then some. Getting people to help with the group ones is like pulling teeth though :(
You're still a fag.
No, you do not speak your intents or your meanings very clearly at all Raen. I know this was posted some time ago, but this together with the more recent post is seriously just too much ridiculousness. I had no idea you had any kind of problem with me until I was informed by someone else that you didn't want to be my "puppet." Why you never spoke directly to me about any problems you had with me, I don't understand.
I really don't appreciate that you took your grievances to an unrelated party, though. I think it's pretty shitty that you've basically called me stupid and incapable behind my back. I'm not knowledgeable enough to be a leader? I don't deserve AF+1 materials for my RDM because I'm a subpar player? Wow Raen, thanks a lot. Also thanks for never saying it to my face; that's mighty white of you.
Enjoy your Asperger's, asshole.
I told you to your face that I wasn't being made a puppet. You have everything logged, check it. It'll be on Kinetix's log, and it was at Fafnir(?) I think...
My words about the leadership were: Ivve I'm unsure about, Melane you know I have issues with and I said that you could be quite good, but lack the experience as of yet -- this is not necessarily a criticism so much as an observation.
The dispute regarding the RDM AF+1 materials is because the benefits they grant to you as a support RDM are tiny compared to that as a soloist... though this applies to a lot of RDM rare/ex drops, and is more of a problem with the system of the game as a whole.
But no, everything sans the leadership thing was said directly to your face and I can tell you where to find the logs if you want evidence of this.
Actually no; I was informed via MSN about what had been said. I know for a fact you said it in tells to Rienea. First, I just asked her and she said it herself. Second, I was there when we told Melane about it -- she definitely didn't hear it from you either. People are not willing to lie for you to cover up the fact that you're two-faced. I am fully aware this is not the first time you've behaved in such a manner, so spare me. Take responsibility for your words and actions or don't bother doing and saying them.
Once again you've managed to craft a reason that you deserve things more than others. It's always about how much more you deserve things than other people and how much more use you will get out of things compared to others. Did it ever occur to you that exact attitude is what keeps some of us from acquiring the necessary gear to be capable of reliably undertaking the same things? Of course you didn't; that might actually involve considering someone else before yourself.
The reason that it was so completely ridiculous is that I didn't even take it from you. It would have autosorted to someone who might have thrown it away, and yet you still took issue with someone receiving an item. You really seem to think that nobody else ever deserves anything, or at the very least deserves it less than you. It's a fucking Limbus piece Raen. You can solo this shit with relative ease. It was just so incredibly petty I couldn't believe it was even said.
Simply: Don't camp HNMs
You stated how ridiculous and stupid it is, then why do you camp them ?
Does anyone forces you ?
Just play your game, don't follow the masses.
Also, don't overrate HNM gear. Adaberk is nice, but player makes the biggest difference.
At least those are my advices.
@Ivve~
I thought Bonefish was Rienea since your previous comment was Anonymous and that's the quirky kind of name she'd choose :P so that response probably doesn't make sense now.
And of course I didn't say any of that to Melane... I don't talk to her. I try to avoid it. I'm certainly not starting a conversation with her just to say something negative like that.
All items have a different relative value, and people with greater relative values on said items should get them first. God knows how many W Hands I've passed at this point and it sure did come back to bite me in the ass later when I can't even get a pair.
AF1+1 hat largely adds elemental magic damage. If you don't use elemental magic damage on Red Mage (which you said you don't in LS conversations many times -- you don't solo, you'd rather use Black Mage etc etc) in perspective you are wasting the drop!
W Legs are even worse since most people towngear them ... why they made the most powerful abjuration in the game, and one which specifically enhances solo play the most come from something which requires large numbers to kill is beyond me.
As I say, I am quite happy to pass items if others will get more significant use out of them. I've passed Goliard hats to WHMs. I've passed W Hands to RNGs in need. My judgment is who would make the most use of them as a -functioning job- rather than a player, and Pink Mage doesn't get much use out of soloist items.
Limbus pieces hate me so much... was trying for PLD Temenos for over a year and RDM items for god knows how long with no success. And they are kind of a big deal! Soloing/lowmanning them also didn't drop the materials in question.
@Duber~
HNMs are weird. They can give you some of the biggest highs in the game, and the lowest lows in the game. Depending on the group you're with, it can be good or bad... their choice of window to pop on also influences this strongly.
About playing the game... it's again very job-based :( a lot of us can't effectively play the game when we choose! Most of the stuff to do is a grind in one way or another anyway <_<
I don't mean this in a demeaning way, and I appreciate you taking the time to comment on my blog :)
That's all fine and good, except for the part where you weren't in the same limbus group with us. You're bitching about me getting a drop that you could not possibly have gotten. That's completely disregarding the fact that you are grossly overstating the impact of RDM AF+1 hat. It's 2 INT for fuck's sake -- hardly a "large" boost by any possible stretch of the imagination.
Additionally, the fact that I do not use RDM for my soloing is completely irrelevant. Improving myself as a person improves my entire group, which is in my opinion far and away more significant than some piddly shit you do for your own amusement. The things you say are so staggeringly selfish I really cannot understand how you don't see that.
Again, you keep trying to say you deserve items more than others because what you do is more important than what they do. Take a step back -- you are not more important or more deserving than other people, Raen. That's a fact.
So main facts here:
1. You whined about me getting a piece of gear you weren't even around to obtain.
2. You think you're more important or deserving than anyone else.
3. You belittle the activities of others.
Can you really not see how your own comments and attitude make those around you hostile? Just wow.
Apollyon is Apollyon <_< you can swap someone into a party so they can lot.
If 2INT isn't a large boost, why do you bother with things like Morrigan's? Morrigan's Slops are 2INT above Mahatma.
2INT can easily be the difference between life and death in a skilful situation... and is worth about 1m~ judging from other items.
You don't nuke on RDM in a group because you have BLM, therefore the net gain is almost zero <_<
I don't deserve some items as much as other people, and some people don't deserve items as much as me. A basic idea of prioritisation and maximum % gains shows this very clearly. I as a DRK did not deserve W Hands over a RNG, and so I have passed countless. I as a RDM do not deserve Goliard Chapeau over a WHM, etc etc. I as a soloist RDM -do- deserve something like W Legs over a DRG for pretty towngear.
Does it matter who gets what items then, if everything is equally important?
Get rid of job priorities as a whole and just give items to anyone who can use them to at least a small degree.
If your LS isn't willing to give Ebodies to BSTs and such, there is a hypocrisy here.
1. I could've obtained said piece of gear.
2. In this case I do, I don't always.
3. Red Mage is just a secondrate WHM unless you push it further. Pink Mages shouldn't take Red Mage drops. This is a problem with FFXI as a whole; the means to obtaining the item is not the same as the item's eventual use (ie you don't get W Legs from soloing -insert really hard mob-).
I have a sense of prioritisation. Everyone does to some extent, or I hope your LS doesn't restrict any jobs from lotting anything they can equip. Mine is just more keenly honed, and looks beyond just what job it is, but what you -do- with the job.
The hostility is yours and Melane's alone... and Tubesock's but he hates everyone <_< without any reason in most cases.
You seem to be neglecting the fact that it's pretty rare for us to actually have people switch groups to obtain any limbus pieces in the first place, and you also kind of didn't say anything to anyone about it.
I really don't have any idea what you're talking about with Morrigan's slops, because they are an additional 2INT for a 200k price total. It only makes sense to switch over from mahatma to morrigan's because you are getting a stat boost and saving money. Secondly, they have a set bonus. That is a huge factor in people going out of their way to obtain all of the pieces instead of just a couple here are there, because truthfully you get better results mixing and matching your items just depending on your target.
You also seem to be oblivious to the fact that prices are not even remotely relative to usefulness, but rather to rarity of the crafted item. Do you seriously think people are paying 3m for HQ blessed trousers because they want that additional 1% haste that may or may not actually affect their recast timer, or because it's a whitebox?
I guess I need to just come out and say it: Nobody in any LS is ever going to give a shit about what you do solo. You're not going to be priority recipient of drops just because you like to do Faust sometimes, nor should you be. I don't care what kind of backwards justification you have for taking gear out of the hands of other people with the same job, but ultimately your enjoyment of the game is not any more important than mine or anyone else's. Prioritizing your solo activities in front of someone else's because you perceive the difference to be great does not make it so. Your RDM is not magically more important or better than mine because you solo Faust. Wow, cool broski. I solo Ix'DRG on RDM -- where's my medal? Oh right.
That also has no bearing at all on the fact that the item dropped for my group on the run that I was leading. Being the super pro you are, you could have stepped up and led but you did not and as a result you missed out. Expecting people to hand you things just because is a bit ridiculous. The answer is to actually speak to the other people at the event and, holy shit, make your intents and meanings clear! You say you do this, and yet you never once bothered to ask in LS for anyone to invite you if the RDM piece dropped. I was completely oblivious to the fact that you wanted it even though I was leading the other leg of the run and would have been the only person to speak to concerning drops considering I'm the only one with the power to invite you to lot.
Even disregarding all those things, it does not excuse you making disparaging comments about me to other people in tells. Who knows who else you talk to or how much you say? Obviously your word can't be taken at face value, so I can only imagine the image you've conveyed of me to others.
The fact is that a lot of people were hostile toward you -- not just the three you've singled out. The thing you said about "I hope you can use that" in response to someone getting DRG AF2 helm in dynamis-xarcabard once is a running joke now. We were definitely not the only people, or often even the first people to make a comment when you skipped out on several windows of Fafnir because it put a damper on your day or King Arthro because you were super busy leveling your DNC. You made a lot of people pretty angry with the things you said, even if they didn't say it to your face. I don't stand to gain a single thing from Fafnir and it annoys me sometimes to waste 3 hours there, but I go because I understand the relationship between myself and the other in my LS. If I go for their things, hopefully they return the courtesy by going for mine. That's how it works in FFXI, but you shun teamwork in favor of personal enjoyment. There's nothing wrong with that, but it means without a doubt that you don't belong in any LS anywhere. Don't expect others to go out of their way for you when you so rarely do so for other people.
In answer of your answer:
Yeah, indeed there is some awsome equipment out there, but is it really worth it ?
Even if I'm not a big fun of buying stuff you can get by yourself I found its easier to just farm 2M and buy yourself an ixion cape than join a weird greedy bot based hnmls and camp it daily for the rest of your ffxi life.
Nowadays you can easily buy everything at reasonable prices maybe with exception of ridill/D.ring/Hauteclaire ?
Then again is it really worth it to join a weird shell just for those items ? not for me.
Also, now there is a lot of alternative content to have fun and even farm gil as hnmls apart from HNMs.
It's your choice of course, but at least you can choice.
Laters ~
@Ivve
That's a problem with the LS system and should be changed. Every other LS I've been in so far, getting limbus items was easy <_<
200k + considerable time and effort! Time is money.
3m for 1% haste is actually pretty good. It's a combination of the two factors really; for stats like haste, the rarity of the pieces which add it mean that each point of haste tends to be expensive past a very basic level (Blitz Ring is 1% for 5 jobs and 500k~!) and jobs like SAM and BLM will spend a lot of money on 1STR/1INT. Perhaps comparing it to money isn't altogether that logical, but I wouldn't discount those stats either.
I did tell several people and I always ask in LS if I can have x, y and z materials if they drop.
Every LS should like RDMs who are capable of playing their job beyond being a second-rate WHM. If you can't ... well, besides the token Refresher, you should be on WHM. WHM slaughters RDM at healing nowadays so much, it isn't even funny.
I did offer to lead a group! It was ignored.
I simply said that I didn't want to join an LS where you and Melane were leading since we don't get on in the slightest and it's not enjoyable. I do not like how Rienea became a different person and her growing devotion to her "faction" which was you/Melane/(Tubesock)... I don't know if I said anything else. Not from the top of my head at least!
You act as if I'm a completely different person to people's faces as I am to their backs; I don't openly insult people to their faces, no, and I don't see the point in accusing them of being "x" or "y", but it's not as if I pretend to get on with people when I don't... I dunno what you consider two-faced though.
That was Tubesock getting the helm; he even lotted on a MULE which showed he was deliberately doing it to spite me, which he has wanted to do for months. I have rarely found someone I hate more than him, and if there was hostility I wonder why I got /tells essentially saying "wtf" at what he did and then when he lost the lot on whatever dropped next, I forget, I got comments like "karma is sure an ass" etc.
I was burning out badly on the game because of HNM, and as you've seen now it along with other factors has essentially brought me to the point of inactivity. This LS is -NOT- my job. I reserve the right to skip the occasional window if I feel like it. No, it's not right but I also don't think it's wrong. I don't play the game to be miserable.
You didn't even have the window for King Arthro, and I sure as hell wasn't camping without one. Yes, KA is one of the HNMs you don't need a window for to claim but it also means I can't afk and do enjoyable things in the meantime.
I skipped one Fafnir in how many? I wouldn't mind if someone was burning out badly if they skipped an HNM or two; in the end it'll only hurt them anyway. FFXI is extremely time-consuming and annoying and people deserve to enjoy their time on the game.
Regardless, I am absolutely sure I never want to endure an LS with the Tubesock/Melane pair again. I have a fair amount of screenshot evidence toward this should someone ever question it.
On a side note though, life is so good without the constant stresses and hostility of FFXI.
@Duber
Yeah, I agree with you. While playing fulltime, since I spent so much time on the game, I really -wanted- this gear and was prepared to put in the time to get it.
It's only after the separation from the game that I realised that no equipment is worth that level of life-leeching. Honestly, if there are HNMs in FFXIV, I will bitch. A lot. Even by my usual standards.
Ridill is just a 2006 remnant anyway which almost always weakens the wielder since they give up so much for it, D.Ring is amazing but nonexistant and Hauteclaire is only better than Joyeuse in very small situations so yeah... I agree, not worth the effort at all.
Maybe that'll be the way for me if I ever return to full activity. The end result of HNMs is fun but the journey is generally not, and it really does make you jaded about the game... and also painfully aware of just how -little- skill the game takes. Very demoralising.
Thanks for the comments~
Lol @ calling me a second rate WHM. I brought my second rate WHM ass to events and didn't whine at every turn if I didn't get to bring my second string DD to do something where it was totally unneeded and inappropriate. Tell me why again people are supposed to give a shit about what you do on your own time when it doesn't benefit the LS in any way? I don't understand why anyone should care what you can do with your RDM unless it's beneficial to the group. Farming SCNM items for yourself so you can have sole lotting rights on the drops really doesn't do anything to help anyone else, and you didn't even show up to help anyone get their boxes. Killing Faust so you can sell the stones for personal profit just is not a reason to be considered for gear that other people will actually bring to LS events, especially when the alternative is giving it to people who will put it in their safe so they can level DNC during events.
I just fail to see why anyone should give any consideration at all to what you do. If it has no bearing on your LS, why should your LS work to gear you better? Common sense, Raen.
Lastly, you didn't talk to me and I didn't see any such offer at all. If one was made, it was too little too late as usual from you. I only ended up running it because Rienea volunteered that I knew the information -- I didn't even say it myself -- and I was still chosen because nobody else offered. The fact remains that you failed to communicate what you wanted to me, and then you bitched about it behind my back. Y
ou can write about it all you want in your little livejournal and all over ffxiah.com, but at the end of the day the overwhelming amount of hostility that comes at you from all kinds of sources not even counting me or Mel speaks for itself. Don't forget that I knew a lot of people in Cetra Sanctuary when you were there and I was in Wish with you. Don't think I'm not aware of your reputation for this same behavior in every linkshell you've been in in the past couple of years. As we say in America, bitch please.
RDM is a second-rate WHM at healing. That's just how it is.
As for how does soloing for personal profit help the group, quoting you previously,
"Improving myself as a person improves my entire group,"
so it appears that my soloing was in fact improving the group, no? Since I was improving both my skills as a player and my gear.
Look, I'm not camping KA without a ToD. Deal with it. Most people wouldn't step into the hellhole of HNM without a ToD... if you have nothing better to do, I really feel sorry for you.
"and you didn't even show up to help anyone get their boxes."
I've told you that this is incorrect several times and it is INCORRECT. I was at La Vaule [S] farming boxes! RDM/NIN both times for reference. We did DRG, DRK, BLM, and a Cogtooth which was messy among others. Straight tanked Rugaroo cause he was impotent.
Please don't spout bullshit.
I would be -very- interested in your sources with respect to the last paragraph because what you are saying is completely unfounded. Seeing as you consistently claim I was not at an event that I in fact was at, I doubt the truth behind these statements as well.
You say overwhelming hostility, yet I experience -none- except from you, Mel, Tubesock etc. I have people asking me why I'm not playing, offering me LS places -- both on this server and on others... doesn't seem too hostile to me.
What precisely did I do wrong in Wish? I told Cyr before I joined that I would be leaving for an HNMLS shortly after finishing Homam. I attended every limbus run, including for 1 or 2 weeks (I forget) after receiving said pieces, then applied for ApkalluVendetta as I said I was going to. There was nothing underhanded going on -at all- there, and you can't pretend there was.
Sure, there was self-interest in it for me. Cyr knew this. I told him this directly. He knew my placement in Wish was not to be permanent, but he was quite happy to accept me nonetheless.
Cetra I left due to issues with the lotting system (which is why I don't do any LS without points anymore) and I'm on good terms with the leader now and I don't know anyone who dislikes me in that shell, at least not openly.
I'm not feeling the hostility... thus far, I have only been made miserable by the people in the LS in Repentance and there was a brief perion in Cetra but those people are gone now.
Believe whatever you want, but if you're not going to provide sources for the discontent you claim people have told you about having with the new LS, I hardly see a reason for me to be held to a standard you are not when it comes to backing up claims. Like, betraying all kinds of trust or whatever bullshit justification you have for making shit up. Nice double standard.
Secondly, if you were at either of those farming events, you left before I got there. I came to both as WHM and I don't remember seeing you either time. If that's not right, them's the breaks dude. Maybe if you'd stayed for full events or basically not been a huge raging douche at every turn, people wouldn't only remember the bad shit.
For KA, other people were fucking botting it, Raen. You don't need a window when people are using tools, and the people who aren't can figure out a rough window just based on the activities of those around you. Holy shit it means showing up for a total of 4 minutes instead of a total of 2. At the very least it shows some solidarity with your LS mates. I wasn't a sack, so I didn't track your attendance or anything but from what I saw you rarely ever showed up to the first couple of windows of fucking anything, death time or no.
It might matter about improving yourself as a player if you, you know, weren't completely on your own agenda. I don't understand why you took an ebody if you knew you'd never use it since you'd be on other jobs. By your own logic, you should have given it up to someone else who used their melee jobs more. Oops!
Spend more time bragging about all the wonderful offers you got to go to linkshells and other servers and shit. Kind of wonder why you feel like there's no place for you to go if that's actually a true statement though. I've been offered positions on other servers too, pink mage and all. Big fucking deal. That says nothing other than people need active players and they go with people they know. Congrats on being exactly like anyone else.
All I hope is that if you ever come back, you keep my name out of your shit. I don't believe in ethugging or whatever, but it's pretty pathetic to spend your time pissing and bitching about other people in a video game. If you feel compelled to talk shit about me in the future, you should just talk shit directly to me or not at all instead of trashing me to your friends.
Well, let's consider those relevant points for each of us null and void for the meantime then, since they're as good as since neither of us can reveal sources.
And noooope, I was there for the whole time on the first and the last 1/2 or so on the second. The first one was really disorganised with Altron running everywhere for reference... most people talking on Vent. Very confusing. I pulled one of the NMs with Powder Boots, again for reference.
Camping HNM is NOT fun though... 4/30 rather than 30 seconds out of 60 is considerably more of a disruption, 8x more.
I don't justify which jobs/players need something by which jobs they're -forced- to play, and DRK gets equal utility to the other DD jobs on it for Ebody so I saw no problem with it. So no, no contradiction inherent here. I wasn't really going to give up my crown drop just because the playerbase is feeble and I get stuck on a certain job.
People pay a monthly fee on this game to be slaves to others!
Who was bragging? All I'm saying is I'm not as universally hated as you say I am :P and I feel like I have nowhere to go because I didn't really want to swap servers and I dunno about going to another LS on Baha... endgame just burned me out so badly and this game is so very shallow.
Maybe if you and your "faction" didn't make my life such a misery then I wouldn't have to piss and bitch!
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